First off terrible to take it out of the school system. Our youngsters are going to lose a sense of priviledge and patriotism...and i think they should leave "under god" too but that is another discussion ><
I think its a state by state desicion tho...my school in Indiana when i was a senior all of a sudden made us say it at the beginning of school...we never did before that so i think it was a new rule...
Post by Erwin Rommel on Dec 7, 2007 23:29:35 GMT -5
We say it at about 11:20 everyday, followed by a moment of silence. I think even more needs to be done though because some kids don't take it seriously and think doing homework is more important than taking less than a minute out of their day to honour our country and our soldiers. Maybe like, each Friday have a 20-30 minute gathering of all the students to celebrate our history. Not sure what we'd do, but it definitely needs to be more than just the Pledge I think!
And we should keep "Under God." Freaking secularists.
Post by iuwildaces on Dec 11, 2007 22:52:59 GMT -5
First off, A big HUA! to the Pledge of Allegiance.
Ok, now onto my $0.02 worth.. Before I get to the pledge...It seems today, at least in my alma mater that things like Civics, and Government have gone to the wayside. As of 2009, they are cutting down US Government to an only 1 semester class. This class I believe to be vital. We learned about politics, how government functions, about the Constitution. To take its place they are making Geography a year long class, previously it was a 1 semester class. Where are the kids going to learn this stuff at then, if we continue to marginalize its importance ?!?!? It's a shame, if you ask me.
For the Pledge... the phrase "one nation under God" is perfectly acceptible. It does not specify which God though, so I dont see the problem. Kids can choose to say it, or not. I respect the fact that some kids might not feel comfortable saying it. But you cannot take it out outright.
My Question: Since when did the minority get to choose if we say it or not ? There's a clear overwhelming amount of support for it.
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Post by Erwin Rommel on Dec 11, 2007 22:57:27 GMT -5
Bill O'Reilly should be a Navy SEAL lol. He's such a bad you know what lol! His books are excellent, I've read every one
Our US Government and AP US Government classes are already only 1 semester long; it is very disappointing that people spend more time in Ceramics than in a class that teachers them the structure of our government!
"One Nation, Under God" should never be thrown out. The day that happens is the day the ACLU wins and that.... That is pretty much the end of the world ladies and gentlemen.
Post by Erwin Rommel on Dec 11, 2007 23:16:06 GMT -5
That is what I am considering doing if I do complete 20 years in the Marine Corp - come back home and teach. I would teach a high school history course instead of government though. Certain aspects of government bores me too much to teach it.
Post by goarmy2011 on Dec 19, 2007 20:29:57 GMT -5
I would have to say that we should never even consider taking the Pledge of Alleigence out of schools.
Basically what is occuring today with the reduction of US History and Government Classes, and the throwing out of the Pledge is exactly what the forfathers were against. It was Thomas Jefferson I believe who stated that every American should be taught US History and Government. Not only that, but that those subjects should be ingrained in the society at a young age. I can speak out of personal experiences on this issue.
I went to Public schools from K-8th Grade. In all of those years, not ONCE did we learn, let alone say either the Pledge of Alleigence, or National Anthem. Then once highschool rolled around I went to a Private School. Suddenly I had to learn something that I should have been taught in Pre-School. And the worst part was that I wasn't the only one.
It seems that latly, Patriotism and National Pride has become something to be dispised. Many people seem to look down on it as being ignorant and stupid. If this line of thought keeps up, I fear for our country's future.
Post by Erwin Rommel on Dec 19, 2007 20:51:28 GMT -5
If you say the Pledge of Allegiance, or are patriotic towards your country, people make you feel like some dorky nerd. Isn't that depressing? Patriots are now looked on as nerdy... like what the heck!? I've said it before & I'll say it again, America today is just a lesser version of the Vietnam Era.